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#16 dani

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Posted 20 November 2011 - 02:43 AM

Where can you get theanine from? Does it have any side effects? I would much rather take that if it helps than klonopin because its so regulated that I am constantly going in for a prescription and I dont want to become dependent on it.

GingerA- Nyquil is the reason I have a medication phobia....It was the worst thing next to starting up lexapro. 20 mins after taking it I had crazy adrenaline surges and passed out and didnt wake up for minutes. I couldnt stay awake on it (my bp totally crashed). UGH what a horrible med! Weird thing is, it took it plenty of times before I had POTS with no problems.

#17 Tammy

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Posted 20 November 2011 - 04:20 AM

After living with adrenaline rushes for 4 years straight (had them daily, and they were especially worse when I had a virus, environmental changes - hot/cold weather, changes in weather, stress, and being over tired and insmonia issues created more adrenaline rushes) - I finally found that combining 1/2 table of tylenol & 1/2 tablet of xanax made so much of a difference! The two together (and a very small dose) seems to work well for me. I had also been on Klonopin which helped some, but made me feel worse in other ways. Something you could check into if it's available for you to try - I'm sensative to Tylenol, but the small dose allows me to make it work.

#18 Dizzysillyak

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Posted 20 November 2011 - 06:19 AM

Hi dani,

You can get theanine at the hfs or order it online. I use enzymatic sun theanine. It worked so well that I never
tried other brands so I don't know anthing about them.

The only downside I found to this supplement, is that if you take too much, your thinking will slow
down dramatically. At this point it sounds like you may benefit from that tho. I know I did ...

Just lower your dosage or discontinue it when that happens.

I haven't noticed that side effect becoming permanent and I've been on it for years.

Of course we are all different so for safety sake you always want to take a low dose of any supplement
to start with. You can open the capsuls and sprinkle a little into some water. If that's ok, then try taking
more.

Like I said I had to tske 100 mg every 3 - 4 hrs to control ny symptoms in the beginning but I
only needed that for a few days. I try to avoid taking more than I need because of how it slows my
brain down ..

Hth ...d

#19 misstraci

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Posted 20 November 2011 - 01:23 PM

dizzy.... the theanine you speak of. Is it a safe supplement to take and besides the slow thinking, does it cause any other side effects? I haven't heard of it before but I'm very interested.

#20 ramakentesh

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Posted 22 November 2011 - 03:46 AM

Caffeine can help sometimes strangely. Othertimes I take a beta blocker and stay lying down or Rhodiola rosea can help a lot with this.

magnesium can increase the bioavailability of nitric oxide so in a large portion of patients could increase symptoms.

#21 Dizzysillyak

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Posted 22 November 2011 - 06:46 AM

Hi misstraci,

Anything we take can have consequences but theanine appears to be safe. I'm not a doctor tho, I'm only
familiar with my experience and that of several if my freinds.

There is a lot of good info on the web about this supplement. And if you google theanine klonopin you'll see a thread on prohealth about this too.

So far the only problem I've noticed has been a decrease in brain function. Coming off theanine has
always eliminated the problem. I always taper off this just to be safe ...

Tc .. D

#22 misstraci

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Posted 22 November 2011 - 10:31 AM

thanks!

#23 Elegiamore

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Posted 03 December 2011 - 10:39 PM

So how do you get a prescription for xanax without your pcp or specialists stating that you are just a nervous ninny? That it is addictive and you don't need it...or miss, do you think you are just worrying unnecessarily about your illness, blah, blah, blah?

And...the only way around the sleep issues IMHO is a sleep doctor. I haven't slept over 3 hours/night for many months. My BP was 196/110 give or take 3 points for days on end. Then my sleep doctor knocked me out with a very high dose of restoril (I'm already on remeron and trazadone plus magnesium to sleep; with nothing I do not sleep at all - went 9 days with no sleep). Wham! I slept EIGHT HOURS!!! When getting up, my bp was 125/85!!!!!

Worth a trip to the sleep doctor IF you can find a decent one.
Yet I had a bad reaction to the Restoril and have had to stop. What a mess this POTS is!

#24 Dizzysillyak

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Posted 03 December 2011 - 11:03 PM

I can certainly relate .. I use a combo of theanine, melatonin and 5htp and vary the dose as needed.
Typically 1.5 mg melatonin, 100 mg theanine and 100 mg 5htp works well. If I'm wide awake past my
normal bedtime, I increase this. The highest I've ever had to go was 9 mg mel, 300 mg theanine and 300 mg 5htp. I played with this for years and I need the combo to sleep thru the night and wake
up rested.

I only take the higher doses when I have to which is rare. Caffeine, gluten or too much excitement interfere with my sleep. I know I've had more than I needed if I feel groggy the next day .. Hth .. D

#25 POTSMama

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Posted 04 December 2011 - 01:34 AM

I hope you find some relief, dani. I know exactly how you feel - - it's the night surges when I'm just dozing off that get me too. Try magnesium and read that thread started by Julie too. I use Klonopin (clonazepam) 1/4 to 1/2 a pill Ibecause I'm so drug sensitive) before sleep for periods like this - - don't know why you can't take it right now, but if you can - - but I try not to take it other times as I don't want to become addicted to it. But when I get that restless all over/wired feeling, or if I wake up with my heart pounding and tachycardic and with cramped thighs/while BP swings and shaking all over, Klonopin is what works fo rme.
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Posted 04 December 2011 - 03:30 AM

I want to try melatonin, but I hate starting new supplements because they always get me extremes (makes to too tired or jittery feelings). Right now I am focusing on getting my bp up (why I have the surges so bad right now) but its so hard because this weather change really ramps up my POTS!

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Posted 04 December 2011 - 12:20 PM

I find that getting in the shower and turning on the cool water sometimes breaks the cycle and makes me feel better temporarily.

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Posted 05 December 2011 - 06:26 AM

I have just developed in the last four months adrenaline surges, really intense. In fact it is affecting me so much that my doctor has no clue what to do in this regard. I'm getting only four hours of sleep a night, I have so much energy I don't know what to do with it. I keep losing weight, I am usually a very rational person and have been making very irrational decisions. My sexual drive has gone from nothing, to driving my husband crazy. {at first he thought it was great, now after four months he's afraid to come home} What I have found to help is that I exercise for 15 minutes doing a dance routine I have learned from my dance classes. I get my heart rate going and then I sit down and in ten minutes my adrenaline begins to lower by itself. It's not enough to get me to sleep so I take a small dose of xanax to help me sleep. I now exercise twice a day and I finally am getting seven hours of sleep. I am trying to get into John Hopkins to see if they can help me discover what on earth has changed with my pots and if there is anything they can do for me.
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#29 khaarina

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Posted 15 December 2012 - 03:30 PM

I've been dealing with this same issue. I was instructed by my cardiologist not the take Midodrine four hours before bed, so by the time I am in bed, I feel like I'm jumping out of my skin. My primary doc doesn't understand my condition. He has put me on several different prescription sleep meds, but none of them were right for me, so I've had to figure out the sleep problem on my own. After a lot of research and trial and error, I think I have finally found a solution that works for me. About an hour before bed (just when the Midodrine is really wearing off, I drink a cup of hot Lipton tea (not decaffeinated) and then I take one otc sleep aid (25mg Diphenhadramine), which I believe is the same as Benadryl. The tea keeps my blood pressure from dropping and my heartrate from increasing too much, then the sleep aid prevents the adrenaline rush. I like this combination because I feel like I am preventing the sleep problem rather than trying to fight it. It is a minimal amount of drug and it feels natural, like I'm able to fall asleep the way I used to before I was sick.

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Posted 15 December 2012 - 04:13 PM

I guzzle water, splash my face with ice cold water and then go into the deepest meditation that I can manage. **** Warning!!! Weird POTs post**** Also, and I know this is strange - I sometimes just try and use the bathroom. For some reason if I have to pee/BM and I don't go right away i get surges. I'm in the medical field and used to holding which is a bad habit. But sometimes remembering to pee helps. Good luck