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#1 dani

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Posted 15 November 2011 - 08:30 PM

I need a "quicker" fix than waiting them out because they have been going on for days. I cant take my klonopin right now or else I would. I am SOOOO tired but they are keeping me awake. I was up all night because every time I would drift off, I would get a surge and I felt like I couldnt sit still. I feel like im on crack but tired at the same time. So much fun...

#2 Katybug

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Posted 15 November 2011 - 08:42 PM

Hi dani,

Two things come to mind but they of course will work differently for each person:

1) Can you take something like a benadryl or Tylenol PM that will have a slightly sedative effect to help counter the adrenaline?

2) Believe it or not, when I can't sleep cause I'm really feeling wired up from it, I drink a cup of caffeinated coffee and it puts me out. Crazy, right?! It somehow works the opposite on me that it would on a normal person. I am one of the POTSies that is helped by a cup of coffee in the morning (it feels like it slows my heart and eases the shaking), so I would probably only try this if you know how you react to caffeine.

Hope you get some sleep soon,
Katie

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Posted 15 November 2011 - 08:48 PM

thats funny Katie because I was going to recommend the same thing! weird how the coffee thing works.....dani what about taking a couple magnesium supplements....cami tea....or gravol??? .....me I couldnt live without my ativan for adrenaline overload....sorry to hear you are suffering!!! also I know it sounds weird but when I was really suffering bad with my surges I found lying on my stomach helped maybe because of the chest compression? Hang in there!! Hugs

Bren

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Posted 15 November 2011 - 08:54 PM

Thanks for the suggestions! I will try some caffiene.. I havent had it in a long time so Ill drink a small amount and see how it goes. How long does benadryl stay in your system? I just dont want to be tired the next day because I have to be semi alert for my daughter lol.
I do the stomach thing too! Last night was horrible, I felt like I had RLS in my entire body. I just had to walk around for an hour straight until most of the adrenaline wore off... that was at 4 AM! EEEk.

#5 dani

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Posted 15 November 2011 - 08:55 PM

Does the magnesium drop your BP?

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Posted 15 November 2011 - 11:07 PM

I havent had a problem with it dropping my BP but I usually only take 250mg before bed....it does help take the edge off....I can sympathize with you.......I have been having non stop surges today too......SVT every couple hrs.......I hate these flares they are exhausting!!

Bren

#7 Maiysa

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Posted 15 November 2011 - 11:29 PM

Dani...magnesium sent me into a blood pressure whirlwind. My pressure was up and down and went to Quick Care I was so scared. :) but I lived. I took it for my muscles and I'm so sensitive that it did help my muscles, but it messed up my system terribly. I have something similar to what you are talking about and I get so sweaty and feel shaky and have flushing which feels like adrenaline. For most of the summer I had this, and just 4 days ago for no reason it stopped. Wish I knew what stopped it. Good luck to you! I hope you an feel well soon.

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Posted 16 November 2011 - 01:36 AM

How do you guys feel your surges? I wasn't told I had hyperadrenergic POTS but haven't been told I'm not. I know I am not hypovolemic POTS. I know that a number of POTS symptoms can coincide with high adrenaline but there are some times I get very shaky, weak, and a feeling of being unsettled. I'm also having trouble with sleep; I can feel wired or not, feel exhausted or just tired, and it doesn't mater I won't fall asleep. I am particularly frustrated tonight since recently my fatigue has been quite bad and extremely severe the past 3 days (awake maybe 8 hours a day at most and exhausted after 3 hours of being awake). Even this morning, 3 hours after waking I didn't know how I would stay awake for the rest of a meeting I had but now it's after 1 AM and I can't fall asleep. If I take ativan or Nyquil I'll sleep half the day and often remain tired the rest of the day.

#9 Maiysa

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Posted 16 November 2011 - 02:23 AM

Hi Britishangel....be careful with the Nyquil. I think it is on the list of medications that can be dangerous for dysautonomia. Maybe you do okay with it....but I had a bad experience. I can't take anything, but Nyquil was the worst.

Ugh....I hate not being able to sleep. So sorry for you. Mine is mostly hyperthyroid. But if I read something really boring...I can usually fall asleep. I hope you got some rest. My surges are usually in my chest and then go all over my body and I sometimes sweat, which is so weird since I didn't have any sweat on an autonomic test. And then I feel almost like a wave in my brain or like my heart is beating in my brain. That sounds weird I know, but it's how it is.

PS Dani....have you had your thyroid levels checked? Just a thought.

I hope you slept well.

#10 brethor9

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Posted 16 November 2011 - 08:04 AM

Hi Britishangel

What you describe is exactly how my adrenaline surges go and I can relate to the exhaustion crash afterwards....my specialist says its like a catecholamine dumping syndrome......your body has all this adrenaline in your system and cannot expel it properly.....so it takes a longer than normal time for it to get out of our system and because of that we crash harder afterwards.....I also can barely hold my head up after a night of surges.....feels like I am drugged....terrible nausea, chest and arm pain,,,,horrible feeling...I have been in SVT the last 2 days pretty much nonstop :(.........I had been doing really well until the last couple of weeks and bam I am right back to square one and no reasons why :( hang in there girls!! we will fight through this! hugs

Bren

#11 Katybug

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Posted 16 November 2011 - 09:07 PM

dani,

The Benadryl is usually ok for me if I only take 25 mg...you can take up to 50 mg but I really need about 12 hours of sleep if I take that much. If I take 25 mg around 8 or 9 pm and get 8 hours of sleep, I usually feel pretty good the next day. I do usually go for the Tylenol PM (which is acetominephine and benadryl together) because I also have a lot of joint pain that also contributes to not falling asleep. If you don't know how you will react to a Benadryl, I would suggest maybe trying this for the first time on a weekend when someone else might be available to watch your daughter if you need to sleep it off the next morning.

It's always a crap shoot with us since we all react a little differently and many of us have strange drug reactions. I always try new things when I know someone else is around in case something goes wrong.

Katie

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Posted 17 November 2011 - 04:09 PM

I am just so afraid because I once took Nyquil and it was TERRIBLE. I ended up at the ER from it, so I get nervous about anything sedating like it. However I am at the point where I just dont care right now so im going to just take it!

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Posted 18 November 2011 - 09:31 AM

Hi dani,

Have you tried theanine ? It's the natural alternative for klonopin. Green tea has theanine but
the caffeine in green tea nailed me so bad that the theanine never had a chance.

Sun theanine is the best way to go. When I was having your symptoms I needed 100 mg every 3 - 4 hours. Now I take appr 100 mg at night ..

Another alternative is to look at your diet for anything that could cause this. Of course any caffeine
source could, but foods containing glutamates, like gluten, casein, soy, or corn could do this.

Any chemical could cause this. We're living in a toxin filled environment and many of us are overwhelmed by this. All foods containing dyes or words you can't pronounce are suspects. Toxins found in our cleaning supplies, etc cando this too.

Are you taking a probiotic ? Our immune systems are mostly located in our guts and our guts
depend on a healthy balance of bacteria to function. If you can handle dairy, kefir is your best option.

Hth ... D

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Posted 19 November 2011 - 12:49 PM

You might want to talk to your doc, when you can for later. Maybe one of the other benzo's would work better. I know for me .25mg xanax does not make me tired at all, just stops the nerve twitching and takes the edge off the surges, I dont get wire either. Personally I take .5mg of ativan at night. This makes me sleepy and relaxes the nervous system. It lasts longer and combats the surges through the night. I usually only feel a little groggy in the morning. Perhaps this may not work for you, but I would try. Hope you find something that helps you.

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Posted 19 November 2011 - 09:21 PM

I am just so afraid because I once took Nyquil and it was TERRIBLE. I ended up at the ER from it, so I get nervous about anything sedating like it. However I am at the point where I just dont care right now so im going to just take it!


I had a terrible experience with Nyquil too so be very careful with that. My heart rate shot up over 220 and I wound up in the ER. They actually stopped my heart and restarted it.